Message posted by Richard C on May 11, 2000 at 08:21:03 EST:

Magoo,

im glad someones got a thread going we can all keep on...

Dont forget, take out the Early Warning Freq/mode changing radars first, then send in your Stealths.
Its the mistake made in Allied Force when they missed that LAST EWR site which tracked and locked onto the F-117 by changing modes and frequencies, albeit it flew its same track night after night aswell.
Once the EWR tracks it, it sends the link to the network of SAM sites such as SA3 or SA6 which are not capable of locking and tracking onto stealth themselves so with the EWR taking up the tracking, the SAM sites can get on with either Electro-optically tracking or just using the EWR site to launch its missiles.

I found it funny that some of the B-2A sorties into Serbia had an escort of F-15Cs and EA-6B Prowlers.
Defeating the object of stealth all together with the worlds most expensive bomber/plane that uses the advanced stealth technology to ingress into enemy territory without an Escort....just goes to show how frightened the USAF was about losing a B-2A.

I tracked the some of the B-2A on HF communications.
They rendezvoued with the B-52Hs that came over my head at 14,000ft full of CALCMs.
The Buffs went down to Gibralter, met up with B2As then all went to Malta where they split up and the Spirits went on into Serbia alone for a stealth sortie and the Buffs shortly after passing Malta launched their missiles.
I remember every night, seeing the Buffs come over the house enroute to Lands End then down over spain....awesome sight.

Back onto Stealth, and the IRST.
Magoo is correct that in the advanced British and american Designs that it can easily pick up the Air Friction caused by high speed and high altitude flying up to 50 miles away.
Russian systems have a range of about 30 miles....not enough for the missiles range.

If the fighter can get through the air supremecy, and behind the stealth bomber, the bomber hasnt got a chance if it is picked up by IRST.

Im sure that systems avaiable to the west that pick up the IIR signature are avialable to less advanced countries, even on the ground as land based systems.

Electro-opticle sights pick up stealth as they did apparently in Allied Force.

I dont think you'll see the Faceted design ever again, the future is slender curves.

Richard

In Reply to: Stealth posted by Magoo on May 10, 2000 at 10:51:46 EST:

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