Re: TNCAP (Tom)


Message posted by Tom on December 25, 2000 at 22:06:04 EST:

Zip, I recall the incident. The thing is, the bulk of the folks who
frequent this board likely have not had experience with nor contact with
people who have had high-level clearances. (BTW, I'll be the first to admit
I've never had a clearance, and thankfully so!) But I have a lot of curiosity about
these sorts of things, and when I have interacted with "cleared" folks, I've
asked a lot of annoying questions about how it all works.

I'm far from any sort of expert, but I have a basic working knowledge of the system,
and of what is considered "acceptable" behavior. It's my understanding that at one time
(and I think things have relaxed a tad) even mundane things like traffic tickets might
result in a friendly visit from security. Posting actual top secrets or even
"hints" on an internet web site would almost certainly bring the wrath of
security screaming down from the heavens.

And make no mistake, it is not hard to lose one's clearance. The higher the
clearance the more squeaky clean the holder must be. And the loss of a clearance
can result in serious economic consequences (i.e., you're out of a job,
and may not be able to get a new one). A clearance is worth a lot of bucks,
perhaps as much as an advanced degree.

In the case of the ever-entertaining Mr. Dawg, he has told us (sometimes obliquely) there
are substantial underground facilities at Groom, genetic experimentation is occuring,
and materials are discretely being moved in and out of Groom via referigerated semis.
If any of this is true, then he is publicly spilling the beans on previously
undisclosed secrets, something sure to get security's attention. And he's disclosed
enough of his background for any security guy with a computer to cross-reference
and figure out who he is. Now one caveat to this is if Mr. Dawg has never been
personally involved with such projects, but has only heard of them. I have been told
that in those cases there is more freedom to speak if it involves other security "channels".

I'll close by saying that a semi-tongue-in-cheek rule I have is that the way
to tell if someone's ever been at Groom for any length of time is that when talking
of the place they'll never use the word "Groom"!


In Reply to: Re: TNCAP (Tom) posted by zipper on December 25, 2000 at 20:31:58 EST:

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